if the fiscal cliff hits they say u.s. gdp would shrink by half a percentage point and that unemployment will rise to over 9%. do you think they have the rights or are they just too conservative? will it be worse? >> if we actually went over the cliff we would be subtracted from domestic demand over $600 billion. that is about four percentage points in gdp. most economists were forecasting in the first half of next year hardly 2 percent growth. if you subtract 4% to spending from that year and a recession that is much deeper. the cbo tense and not be alarmist because they say what they are partisan, but congress read it paycheck, and tey don't want to say congress is being irresponsible and thrusting the economy into the next great depression. gerri: then know whether paycheck comes from. did you know that congress, the vice-president, the president are of getting pay increases that the president approved . >> no credibility. i am on the government and the need help. gerri: you make a good point. if there is some kind of r